¡Esto es como el juego de la silla musical!, encuentra tu híbrido antes de que la música se detenga. Sólo unos días atrás hablamos de la falta de vehículos híbridos programados para aparecer en el Salón del Automóvil de Frankfurt y parece que estábamos un poco desinformados. Siguiendo el anuncio hecho la semana pasada por GM sobre el tema, DaimlerChrysler y BMW, Volkswagen, Audi y Porsche anunciaron hoy una alianza para hacer básicamente lo mismo. Audi, cuya compañía hermana es Volkswagen, indicó que tomará la iniciativa en el proyecto. Adicionalmente y como mencionamos en una nota anterior, Mercedes ya tiene un Clase S híbrido bajo la manga esperando a salir.
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Audi, VW, Porsche to develop new hybrid engine
Associated Press
FRANKFURT, Germany -- German automakers Volkswagen AG, Audi AG and Porsche AG said Monday at the International Motor Show in Frankfurt that they will work in tandem to develop a new fuel-efficient hybrid engine for their automobiles.
Complete details of the new program were not revealed, nor was a timeline, but the move comes less than a week after BMW AG said it would join with General Motors Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG to develop their own hybrid engine.
Audi, a part of Wolfsburg-based VW, Europe's biggest automaker, said it would take the lead in the development of the new hybrid.
GM and DaimlerChrysler finalized their own hybrid partnership last month. Under that agreement, GM is the lead designer of hybrid engines for rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive, full-size trucks and sport utility vehicles, front-wheel-drive cars and crossover vehicles. DaimlerChrysler is the lead designer of hybrid engines for rear-wheel-drive luxury cars.
Hybrid engines have been touted as a way to make automobiles more fuel efficient and less-costly to run but current cars that sport them tend to cost between US$4,000 (euro3,221) to US$9,000 (euro7,249) more than counterparts with regular engines under the hood.
In a two-mode hybrid system, a vehicle can be powered either by two electric motors or by the combustion engine, or the systems can be used simultaneously.
Currently, Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. dominate the two-mode hybrid market. Ford Motor Co. also sells two SUVs that use the technology.
Volkswagen, Audi y Porsche desarrollarán motores híbridos
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Artrech
Yo creo, que como combistible del futuro, deverian trabajar en el desarroyo del hidrogeno como hace BMW y no en hacer autos con motores electricos. Con el hidrogeno no hay que cambiar toda la mcanica del auto, solo hay que modificar el sistema de inyeccion. Aparte en los autos electricos (como se ponen un motor por rueda) se pude modificar hasta la cantidad de ruedas. No me gustaria que en un futuro los autos sean totalemente distintos a lo que son actualemnte. ¿Se imaginan un Porsche con el ruido de un motor electrico?.
Aparte el rendimiento de un motor electrico es inferior. Aunque digan que el motor electrico aprovecha el 90% de la energia contra el 40% del motor a combustion interna, en la practica en motor a combustion interna siempre fue superior. Tal vez es porque un motor electrico rindiendo al 100% (maquina ideal) rinde muchisimo menos que un motor a combustion interna rindiendo a ese mismo pocentaje (esto es algo que se me ocurrio a mi en este instante, nada oficial). Y no me digan que el motor electrico es mas lento devido a que no tiene desarroyo, porque este motor existio antes de motor a combustion interna.
Saludos
Aparte el rendimiento de un motor electrico es inferior. Aunque digan que el motor electrico aprovecha el 90% de la energia contra el 40% del motor a combustion interna, en la practica en motor a combustion interna siempre fue superior. Tal vez es porque un motor electrico rindiendo al 100% (maquina ideal) rinde muchisimo menos que un motor a combustion interna rindiendo a ese mismo pocentaje (esto es algo que se me ocurrio a mi en este instante, nada oficial). Y no me digan que el motor electrico es mas lento devido a que no tiene desarroyo, porque este motor existio antes de motor a combustion interna.
Saludos
Creo que te estás haciendo un lio.Artrech escribió:Yo creo, que como combistible del futuro, deverian trabajar en el desarroyo del hidrogeno como hace BMW y no en hacer autos con motores electricos. Con el hidrogeno no hay que cambiar toda la mcanica del auto, solo hay que modificar el sistema de inyeccion. Aparte en los autos electricos (como se ponen un motor por rueda) se pude modificar hasta la cantidad de ruedas. No me gustaria que en un futuro los autos sean totalemente distintos a lo que son actualemnte. ¿Se imaginan un Porsche con el ruido de un motor electrico?.
Aparte el rendimiento de un motor electrico es inferior. Aunque digan que el motor electrico aprovecha el 90% de la energia contra el 40% del motor a combustion interna, en la practica en motor a combustion interna siempre fue superior. Tal vez es porque un motor electrico rindiendo al 100% (maquina ideal) rinde muchisimo menos que un motor a combustion interna rindiendo a ese mismo pocentaje (esto es algo que se me ocurrio a mi en este instante, nada oficial). Y no me digan que el motor electrico es mas lento devido a que no tiene desarroyo, porque este motor existio antes de motor a combustion interna.
Saludos
A ver, cuando se dice que un motor eléctrico tiene mejor rendimiento que uno de combustión interna, es porque la mayor parte de la energía necesaria para su funcionamiento se transforma en movimiento, que es lo que se pretende, y no se pierde en calor (que no produce movimiento y por tanto es inútil)
Otra cosa es que el motor eléctrico no sea capaz de desarrollar mucha potencia o tenga poca autonomía.
Además ¿no hay que cuidar el planeta? ¿no no estamos cargando el medioambientes? ¿qué pasa con el efecto invernadero, el calentamiento global? se estará de acuerdo o no, pero es lo que hay
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Artrech
Pues la cosa parece que va en serio:
Porsche(R) to Build Hybrid Version of Cayenne(R) SUV
ATLANTA, Sept. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- At its press conference today at the Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA) in Germany, Porsche announced its decision to build a hybrid version of its highly successful Cayenne SUV, revealed provisional results for its 2004/2005 fiscal year, and took the wraps off its newest sports car -- the 2006 Cayman S.
The hybrid Cayenne will cut fuel consumption by approximately 15 percent while retaining its legendary Porsche driving dynamics. To be launched by the end of the decade, the vehicle's environmentally friendly drive system is being developed together with Volkswagen Group. It will be based on a Full Hybrid Drive Concept, meaning that the vehicle will be powered by both a gasoline combustion engine and an electric motor that operate independently or in a joint process.
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Dr. Wendelin Wiedeking, Porsche President and CEO, announced the company again set records for both revenue and sales. For the fiscal year that ended July 31, 2005, revenue was up by 6.8 percent to Euro 6.56 billion, while sales increased by 15 percent to 88,379 vehicles worldwide. Porsche attributes much of the growth to successful sales of the redesigned Porsche Boxster(R) models (up 38.7 percent worldwide) and the new-generation Porsche 911(R) Carrera(R) models (up 17.4 percent worldwide). Total Cayenne sales of 41,884 units (up 4.9 percent worldwide) reflect the ongoing attraction of Porsche's youngest model line.
Porsche expects to see further sales momentum as a result of the long- awaited two-seat Cayman S coupe, which premiered today and will be introduced in the North American market in January 2006. Flaunting a pedigree of both the 911 Carrera and Boxster series, this striking extension of Porsche's range of sports cars incorporates dramatic new styling, a powerful 295 hp (SAE) engine, and features and options made popular by its brethren. The only mid-engine coupe in its class, the Cayman S is positioned and priced between the Porsche 911 Carrera and Porsche Boxster S.
Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), based in Atlanta, Ga., and its subsidiary, Porsche Cars Canada, Ltd., are the exclusive importers of Porsche 911, and Carrera GT sports cars and Cayenne sport utility vehicles for the United States and Canada. A wholly owned, indirect subsidiary of Dr. Ing. h.c.F. Porsche AG, PCNA employs approximately 250 people who provide Porsche vehicles, parts, service, marketing and training for its 209 U.S. and Canadian dealers. They, in turn, provide Porsche owners with best-in-class service.
Porsche(R) to Build Hybrid Version of Cayenne(R) SUV
ATLANTA, Sept. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- At its press conference today at the Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA) in Germany, Porsche announced its decision to build a hybrid version of its highly successful Cayenne SUV, revealed provisional results for its 2004/2005 fiscal year, and took the wraps off its newest sports car -- the 2006 Cayman S.
The hybrid Cayenne will cut fuel consumption by approximately 15 percent while retaining its legendary Porsche driving dynamics. To be launched by the end of the decade, the vehicle's environmentally friendly drive system is being developed together with Volkswagen Group. It will be based on a Full Hybrid Drive Concept, meaning that the vehicle will be powered by both a gasoline combustion engine and an electric motor that operate independently or in a joint process.
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Dr. Wendelin Wiedeking, Porsche President and CEO, announced the company again set records for both revenue and sales. For the fiscal year that ended July 31, 2005, revenue was up by 6.8 percent to Euro 6.56 billion, while sales increased by 15 percent to 88,379 vehicles worldwide. Porsche attributes much of the growth to successful sales of the redesigned Porsche Boxster(R) models (up 38.7 percent worldwide) and the new-generation Porsche 911(R) Carrera(R) models (up 17.4 percent worldwide). Total Cayenne sales of 41,884 units (up 4.9 percent worldwide) reflect the ongoing attraction of Porsche's youngest model line.
Porsche expects to see further sales momentum as a result of the long- awaited two-seat Cayman S coupe, which premiered today and will be introduced in the North American market in January 2006. Flaunting a pedigree of both the 911 Carrera and Boxster series, this striking extension of Porsche's range of sports cars incorporates dramatic new styling, a powerful 295 hp (SAE) engine, and features and options made popular by its brethren. The only mid-engine coupe in its class, the Cayman S is positioned and priced between the Porsche 911 Carrera and Porsche Boxster S.
Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), based in Atlanta, Ga., and its subsidiary, Porsche Cars Canada, Ltd., are the exclusive importers of Porsche 911, and Carrera GT sports cars and Cayenne sport utility vehicles for the United States and Canada. A wholly owned, indirect subsidiary of Dr. Ing. h.c.F. Porsche AG, PCNA employs approximately 250 people who provide Porsche vehicles, parts, service, marketing and training for its 209 U.S. and Canadian dealers. They, in turn, provide Porsche owners with best-in-class service.
